For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.
I've been a hardcore non-vegetarian. And I couldn't live without fish. I adored the fact that the human race has a pair of canines. But things nearly took a U-turn when I recently came across this passage:
You ask of me then for what reason it was that Pythagoras abstained from eating of flesh. I for my part do much wonder in what humor, with what soul or reason, the first man with his mouth touched slaughter, and reached to his lips the flesh of a dead animal, and having set before people courses of ghastly corpses and ghosts, could give those parts the names of meat and victuals, that but a little before lowed, cried, moved, and saw; how his sight could endure the blood of slaughtered, flayed, and mangled bodies; how his smell could bear their scent; and how the very nastiness happened not to offend the taste, while it chewed the sores of others, and participated of the saps and juices of deadly wounds.
For my surprise, this statement on vegetarianism made me think. Yes, after all that articles and preaches and speeches which flew right over my head like paper planes (which I make during boring college lectures), a random internet article makes me reconsider my food habits!
The author, as I found soon, is one of those old Greek thinkers: Plutarch. Rather than me going all blah blah about the new found idea, I'll rather quote some pieces from the article which struck my interest.
And truly, as for those people who first ventured upon eating of flesh, it is very probable that the whole reason of their so doing was scarcity and want of other food
...had they at this instant but their sense and voice restored to them, I am persuaded they would express themselves to this purpose:
"...Into what an age of the world are you fallen, who share and enjoy among you a plentiful portion of good things! What abundance of things spring up for your use!
...As for us, we fell upon the most dismal and affrighting part of time
...There was then no production of tame fruits, nor any instruments of art or invention of wit. And hunger gave no time, nor did seed-time then stay for the yearly season. What wonder is it if we made use of the flesh of beasts contrary to Nature, when mud was eaten and the bark of wood
...But whence is it that a certain ravenousness and frenzy drives you in these happy days to pollute yourselves with blood, since you have such an abundance of things necessary for your subsistence?"
...had they at this instant but their sense and voice restored to them, I am persuaded they would express themselves to this purpose:
"...Into what an age of the world are you fallen, who share and enjoy among you a plentiful portion of good things! What abundance of things spring up for your use!
...As for us, we fell upon the most dismal and affrighting part of time
...There was then no production of tame fruits, nor any instruments of art or invention of wit. And hunger gave no time, nor did seed-time then stay for the yearly season. What wonder is it if we made use of the flesh of beasts contrary to Nature, when mud was eaten and the bark of wood
...But whence is it that a certain ravenousness and frenzy drives you in these happy days to pollute yourselves with blood, since you have such an abundance of things necessary for your subsistence?"
But if you will contend that yourself was born to an inclination to such food as you have now a mind to eat, do you then yourself kill what you would eat. But do it yourself, without the help of a chopping-knife, mallet, or axe, --as wolves, bears, and lions do, who kill and eat at once. Rend an ox with thy teeth, worry a hog with thy mouth, tear a lamb or a hare in pieces, and fall on and eat it alive as they do.
Nay, there is nobody that is willing to eat even a lifeless and a dead thing as it is; but they boil it, and roast it, and alter it by fire and medicines, as it were, changing and quenching the slaughtered gore with thousands of sweet sauces, that the palate being thereby deceived may admit of such uncouth fare.
And then one argument that I couldn't take my mind off
Earthen jars, if you strike them, will sound; but if they be full, they perceive not the strokes that are given them. Copper vessels also that are thin communicate the sound round about them, unless some one stop and dull the ambient stroke with his fingers.
Moreover, the eye, when seized with an over-great plenitude of humors, grows dim and feeble for its ordinary work. When we behold the sun through a humid air and a great quantity of gross and indigested vapors, we see it not clear and bright, but obscure and cloudy, and with glimmering beams.
Just so in a muddy and clogged body, that is swagged down with heavy and unnatural nourishments; it must needs happen that the gayety and splendor of the mind be confused and dulled, and that it ramble and roll after little and scarce discernible objects, since it wants clearness and vigor for higher things.
Moreover, the eye, when seized with an over-great plenitude of humors, grows dim and feeble for its ordinary work. When we behold the sun through a humid air and a great quantity of gross and indigested vapors, we see it not clear and bright, but obscure and cloudy, and with glimmering beams.
Just so in a muddy and clogged body, that is swagged down with heavy and unnatural nourishments; it must needs happen that the gayety and splendor of the mind be confused and dulled, and that it ramble and roll after little and scarce discernible objects, since it wants clearness and vigor for higher things.
Thoughts
I'm pretty moved by all the above words, no doubt. And I've cut down my insanely meaty lunch to pure veggie food. I'm also going towards more of green in the diet, which I feel like the 'neater' food. Concerns
Discussions with friends raised some interesting points. Ancient Indians followed a vivid vegetarian diet, complete with all nutrients. But this variety is not available to us in the present day; We're stuck with a limited set of green food in any area, and thus we essentially need some non vegetarian products to keep us equipped with all kind of nutrition. All the balanced-diet-for-the-week charts include meat and fish. I'm trying to gather more accurate information on the same :)
Awesomeness
We all know Hitler was a vegetarian. Well, if you're too concerned about Auschwitz and the sorts (they're making an entire movie about it now, after Schindler's List), we can always move onto more favorable figures.Starting with familiar faces like Gandhi and our favorite ex-president Sir APJ, we can see that cool people like Einstein too were supporters of the pure food (although Einstein had to eat meat for the majority of his life, due to circumstances, as he says).
And the real awesomeness comes in when we hear that Leonardo Da Vinci was a vegetarian. So was Nikola Tesla. Oh my, Nikola Tesla! I do not need a better reason :)
So are you in? Take your time!
PS:
It's very probable that you do not fully recognize the awesomeness of Nikola Tesla. For a sample, I may quote this about Mr.Tesla:
He successfully pulled off scientific experiments that modern-day technology STILL can't replicate. For instance, in 2007 a group of lesser geniuses at MIT got all pumped up out of their minds because they wirelessly transmitted energy a distance seven feet through the air. Nikola Tesla once lit 200 lightbulbs from a power source 26 miles away, and he did it in 1899 with a machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert. To this day, nobody can really figure out how the hell he pulled that shit off, because two-thirds of the schematics only existed in the darkest recesses of Tesla's all-powerful brain.
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son et, i have always been a veggie :-) nice nice post btw.. :D Mr. Nikola, got to see the Dr. Google now :)
ReplyDeleteI used to be a vegetarian, then switched to eating meat. It's really difficult to maintain health on a pure vegetarian diet, unless you take health supplements, which I don't believe in taking too much of.
ReplyDeleteUntil now, I still believe in a combination of both to be healthy.
That aside, I guess it really depends on your environment as well. In some places, it is really inconvenient to get pure vegetarian food. Most of the veg dishes contain meat everywhere you go. And you never know what oil they use too.
Like my sis, she usually starves herself because vegetarian food is no available. So isn't that kind of counter-productive if your motive is to be healthy?
But of course, if you have a different motive, such as religion (for some), or anti-animal-cruelty (for others), then I guess you have to pay the price of convenience and prepare food from home everyday.
@ Shravan
ReplyDeleteOh et tu Shravan?? Should I add it under the Awesomeness title? :D
Do check Tesla, he's too cool!
The reason why I chose vegetarian food now is to have a healthy mind, rather than a healthy body :)
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, we cannot leave aside the body, so I'm including some essential fish and such non veg which will make up any nutrient loss due to veggie diet!
There's nothing much to do with religion :)
I see. That's good. It does give one a healthy mind I agree :) Makes you feel clean and guilt-free.
ReplyDeleteBut of course, avoid the deep fried mock meat/flours :)
Oh I should check out Tesla too, he sounds awesome!
I am a vegetarian. :$
ReplyDeleteThankfully where I live there are abundant supplies of pure veg. food. (And I hope that remains the same)
I do not wish to try eating non-veg either.
I wonder how will I survive in Japan. :f
I eat eggs though once a few months.
Does that come under non-veg? I can't decide.
@ Ankita
ReplyDeleteOh, and you too. More cool people being veggies, huh :D
Eggs and veg, that's a totally different topic that I need yet to research. I'm adding some sort of fish to the diet, 'cause apparently no green food can provide omega 3 and the sorts!
Ah, and they eat even almost live flesh and weird non-vegetarian dishes out there in Japan :D :P
Don't take it as a negative remark. Let me just share my experience in this respect.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a bit younger I was inspired by two books- "Brihadaranyakam" and "Athirukadakkunavvar" by C.Radhakrishnan.(As a matter of fact we likes those books in which our state of mind is reflected and then with the help of the same books we understand ourselves better).
So in the end I became a vegetarian despite the active opposition from my family. After 7 years of staunch vegetarianism I gave it up recently on encountering the fact that absolute justice doesn't exist in this universe, all what exists is relative justice.
But then relative justice moved closer to absolute justice when "Justice" explained itself as not just a matter of life, death or physical pain but as a matter of state of mind.
I don't know whether my arguments seem convincing to you. After all when we are seeking the truth, nothing less than our own encounter with it will satisfy us. And here you are observing it in other contexts as well.
Once again amazed by your desire for precise knowledge..
Yes, I get your point. To be honest, I'm not entirely concerned about the justice factor in vegetarianism (Talks with my Brahman friends on the topic gave me a detailed description of the 'hierarchical justice' they consider).
ReplyDeleteWell, I was attracted mostly by the science part of it. May be the green food you had all the 7 years had helped fresher thoughts to be born in your mind, and better thus ideas to happen :)
And, I really need to try those books, hope they're in the public library.
That comment on 7 years of vegetarianism is really an intelligent one, although I don't dare to call it the impact in the other way...
ReplyDeleteThose books made sense to me when I was in eight standard. I don't know whether it has enough to feed a 21 year old..I myself feels like rereading.
When I got back to reading habit after a large gap, I read English literature alone. Even then, I'd grab a random Malayalam literature while (free) browsing through the book store and get carried away in it.
ReplyDeleteMy mother was a regular reader of C.Radhakrishnan, she says. I'll get to it on the next visit to my library.
a reader always likes to hear of another reader with similar reading interests
ReplyDeleteC.Radhakrishnan is an author with some depth, I remember. Now he is writing more spiritual things I think.
I don't know whether my tastes remain the same..But you give it a try.
Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to say that I have really enjoyed reading your blog posts. Any way I'll be subscribing to your feed and I hope you post again soon.
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Nice that you are turning to a vegetarian. Welcome to the club. I have always been a strict vegetarian. It is true that the food you eat affects your thoughts. But its not true that every vegetarian is a Saatvic. :)
ReplyDeleteHi. I wanted to drop you a quick note to express my thanks. I've been following your blog for a month or so and have picked up a ton of good information as well as enjoyed the way you've structured your site. I am attempting to run my own blog but I think its too general and I want to focus more on smaller topics. Being all things to all people is not all that its cracked up to be.
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I'am also considering to turn into vegetarian but I am not sure it can rally fullfill my diet requirements for bodybuilding. Any conclusions?
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